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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:51:09 +0800
From: Andrew Hageman
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Subject: introduction.
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Hello fellow Blake fans,
The first message requested a small introduction and not knowing
exactly what is meant by small I will try to err on the smaller side. I
am twenty-four years old and have been teaching English in Shanghai,
China for one and a half years. Before coming here I got my B.A. in
English Literature from St. Olaf College in Northfield, MN--location of
the defeat of Jesse James. During a course on the Romantics I first
discovered Blake. Within the next two years I hope to enter graduate
school and write a thesis on Blake, so I am using this discussion group
as a place to focus and develop some ideas on Blake. It is also a fine
opportunity for me to maintain a respectable vocabulary as it tends to
decline when most hours of the day are spent with non-native speakers.
I look forward to joining this forum.
That is all for my introduction, but I also want to offer something
Blake oriented in this first transmission. While reading the last A
Memorable Fancy in The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, I was struck by his
analysis of Jesus Christ. The Angel has said that Jesus had given
sanction to the ten commandments, but the Devil refutes the claim with
several examples of Jesus disobeying the commandments. "Jesus was all
virtue, and acted from impulse: not from rules." I was immediately
reminded of a passage from Nietzsche's The AntiChrist: under section
39--"Not a faith, but a doing; above all, a not doing of many things,
another state of being. States of consciousness, any faith, considering
something true, for example--every psychologist knows this--are
fifth-rank matters of complete indifference compared to the value of the
instincts: speaking more strictly, the whole concept of spiritual
causality is false...The 'Christian,' that which for the last two
thousand years has been called a Christian, is merely a psychological
misunderstanding. If one looks more closely, it was, in spite of all
'faith,' only the instincts that ruled in him--and what instincts!"
Both writers seem to be probing the same misunderstanding or flaw.
Although the two may not be wholly compatible I thought it an
interesting juxtaposition. Has anyone got any ideas on Blake and
Neitzsche?
Andrew Hageman.
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Hello fellow Blake fans,
The first message requested a small introduction
and not knowing exactly what is meant by small I will try to err on the
smaller side. I am twenty-four years old and have been teaching English
in Shanghai, China for one and a half years. Before coming here I
got my B.A. in English Literature from St. Olaf College in Northfield,
MN--location of the defeat of Jesse James. During a course on the
Romantics I first discovered Blake. Within the next two years I hope
to enter graduate school and write a thesis on Blake, so I am using this
discussion group as a place to focus and develop some ideas on Blake.
It is also a fine opportunity for me to maintain a respectable vocabulary
as it tends to decline when most hours of the day are spent with non-native
speakers. I look forward to joining this forum.
That is all for my introduction, but I also want to offer something
Blake oriented in this first transmission. While reading the last
A Memorable Fancy in The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, I was
struck by his analysis of Jesus Christ. The Angel has said that Jesus
had given sanction to the ten commandments, but the Devil refutes the claim
with several examples of Jesus disobeying the commandments. "Jesus
was all virtue, and acted from impulse: not from rules." I was immediately
reminded of a passage from Nietzsche's The AntiChrist: under section
39--"Not a faith, but a doing; above all, a not doing of many things,
another state of being. States of consciousness, any faith,
considering something true, for example--every psychologist knows this--are
fifth-rank matters of complete indifference compared to the value of the
instincts: speaking more strictly, the whole concept of spiritual causality
is false...The 'Christian,' that which for the last two thousand years
has been called a Christian, is merely a psychological misunderstanding.
If one looks more closely, it was, in spite of all 'faith,' only the instincts
that ruled in him--and what instincts!"
Both writers seem to be probing the same misunderstanding or flaw.
Although the two may not be wholly compatible I thought it an interesting
juxtaposition. Has anyone got any ideas on Blake and Neitzsche?
Andrew Hageman.
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:59:17 EST
From: Andrewkauf
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Blake's context is never the "mortal world." It is always the fall from
or effort to achieve the eternal one, or the effort to illuminate the
implications thereof. Since "Eternity is in love with the productions of
time," the prophet/Bard finds in "Generation" the "image of re-generation."
It's interesting and instructive that Blake produced some of the most
compelling and vivid social criticism ever written (in English at least), such
as the passage in question, in the service of the broader, visionary
endeavor. Why do people such as New Historicists (and old historical critics)
want to detach his work from the context of "mental fight" in which he
laboriously and consistently framed it, and reduce his writing to protest
poetry?
Andy
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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:53:42 +0200
From: P Van Schaik
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Dear Andrew
How reassuring to hear views expressed which I was beginning to feel
like a pariah for espousing over all these years.
Pam
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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:15:16 -0500
From: Adam_Warner@brown.edu
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>asks me what "chaunted" means. As far as I know it is a coinage
>and a very effective one too. Morton Paley addresses a note with
OED actually gives "chaunt" as a variant of "chant" going back to the late
middle ages, and among its examples gives a line of Milton: "Let them
chaunt while they will of prerogatives."
Now where that line of Milton might be from I haven't the least idea --
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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:26:33 EST
From: TomD3456
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>Having enjoyed this section of plate 30 (44) from Jerusalem I typed it
>in to the list and also forwarded to a few friends, one of whom now
>asks me what "chaunted" means. As far as I know it is a coinage
>and a very effective one too. Morton Paley addresses a note with
>this line (number 32) as follows "An allusion to the Fast Days that
>were proclaimed during the French wars." At present I cannot see
>the exact reason for his attaching the note just here, but being as I
>know nothing of the Fast days maybe there is a link to chaunting that
>somebody can enlighten me about ?
Paul-
Forgive me if I'm missing your point, but all I see is that "chaunted" is
Blake's spelling of "chanted" (i.e., sang, as in Gregorian chant). I don't
know the historical significance of the Fast Days (perhaps proclaimed by the
established Church to curry Divine favor during the war?), but the irony is
clear, as any fasting done by the Poor is hardly voluntary, or religious in
character.
I do love the passage, and your remarks about it are intriguing. But I wonder
if I'm missing the point of your question about "chaunting."
--Tom Devine
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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:16:09 MET
From: "D.W. DOERRBECKER"
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March 16th, 1998 (bounced, so I re-subscribed and now receive two
copies of each posting!)
On Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:01:12 +0200 Pamela van Schaik wrote
> I don't think any work relates the visual symbols of
> alchemy to Blake in any depth, but there would probably be
> allusions to aspects of alchemy in Kathleen Raine's works on
> Blake. [...].
In 1996/1997 the Benedikt Taschen Verlag published both a German- and
an English-language version of a pictorial compendium of some 600+
illustrations, all concerned (in one sense or another) with the
concepts of alchemy. The book was compiled by Alexander Roob, a
German artist and translator of Blake's *Milton*, and it certainly
*does* relate "the visual symbols of alchemy to Blake" (whose works
are represented by some thirty or more plates), though the matter of
"depth" is, as always, open to discussion.
DWD
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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:46:15 -0800
From: Wendy Williams
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Izak-- Just wanted to say a quick thank you to you and Gloudina for all
you comments as well as sending me a copy of your article.
Would it be safe to say that one reader's guess is as good as
another's in relation to MT? I am a new reader of Blake and this is my
first reading of the poem. In my reserch I have found so many opposing
ideas, I can't say I know which one I agree with the strongest. Any
input?
Also -- totally off the subjuct of Blake, but in tune with literature as
a whole, I am looking at graduate study at Pepperdine University. Do
any of you Blake fans know how they rank when it comes to the study of
the Romantics?
Thank you, Wendy Williams
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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 23:27:31 GMT
From: Paul Tarry
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>Blake's context is never the "mortal world."
Does this mean anything ?
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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:26:14
From: Izak Bouwer
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> Would it be safe to say that one reader's guess is as good as=20
>another's in relation to MT? I am a new reader of Blake and this is my=20
>first reading of the poem. In my reserch I have found so many opposing=20
>ideas, I can't say I know which one I agree with the strongest. Any
>input? =20
>
Hi Wendy: I think one difficulty lies in the problem of understanding=20
Blake=92s larger views, and especially his symbolic reading of the Bible.=
=20
Henry Crabb Robinson reported: =93And [he] warmly declared that all=20
he knew was in the Bible, but then he understands by the Bible the=20
spiritual sense. For as to the natural sense, that Voltaire was
commissioned by God to expose.=94 =20
His articulation of views abounds with terms such as Satan, God, Jesus,=20
etc. As (an almost random) example, let me quote the following=20
well-known commentary of his on Wordsworth (from HCR):
=93The eloquent descriptions of Nature in W.=92s poems were conclusive
proof of atheism, for whoever believes in Nature said B. disbelieves=20
in God. For Nature is the work of the Devil.=94=20
See also his annotations to works by other authors.
In my comments on _MT_ I always try to find support, in context,
from Blake=92s own words, or from parallel sections in his other work. =20
I have found that a study of _MT_ becomes very illuminating of=20
Blake=92s work and views as a whole.
Izak
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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:17:41 EST
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i wonder if this is just going to get posted?
if so,
how do i stop getting all of this mail from
all of these insightful people?
t.
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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:44:30 EST
From: Andrewkauf
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>"Blake's context is never the 'mortal world.'"
>Paul.Tarry wrote
>"Does this mean anything?"
The context in which Pam used "mortal world" in her 3/17 posting is quite
clear.
The context in which I used it in response to her note is likewise clear.
I apologize for not being able to resist seeing in the misplaced smugness of
this query Blake's "Idiot Questioner... who sits with a sly grin.../ Silent
plotting when to question, like a thief in a cave." (Milton 41:12-14)
Andy
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Date: 19 Mar 1998 10:57:13 -0800
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Date: 19 Mar 1998 10:55:46 -0800
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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 98 11:12:08 GMT
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I always have problems with eternity, I never know quite what it
means. It is like being really, I don't really know if I can believe in
being. When Pam and Andrew talk about Blake's context not being
the Mortal World I wonder what they mean. Is it the world of
Jerusalem that is not of this mortal world ?
Do you believe in eternity ?
No, not at all. Don't ask me that ! For me, the question doesn't even
exist. Eternity is a human invention. Why talk about such a Utopia ?
When someone invents something, there's always someone for it and
someone against it. It's mad foolishness to have made up the idea of
eternity. I don't mean that I'm either atheist or believer, I don't even
want to talk about it. I don't talk to you about the life of bees on
Sunday, do I ? It's the same thing.
>"Blake's context is never the 'mortal world.'"
>Paul.Tarry wrote
>"Does this mean anything?"
The context in which Pam used "mortal world" in her 3/17 posting is
quite clear. The context in which I used it in response to her note is
likewise clear.
I apologize for not being able to resist seeing in the misplaced
smugness of this query Blake's "Idiot Questioner... who sits with a sly
grin.../ Silent plotting when to question, like a thief in a cave."
(Milton 41:12-14)
Andy
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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 98 16:35:12 GMT
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At the moment the artist gets put on a pedestal, he sits at the
hostess' right hand. He's a superior being, possessed of intangible
fantasies. It's all right by me. But it gives me a laugh.
"Blake Online." Alright so we play the game with art history. But
beware. Art history institutionalizes the author as the basis for
aesthetic value. It suppresses inconsistancy, difference, and
undecidability of meaning in the figure of the author to reduce the
anxiety of the unknowable and ensure interpretive closure. Art history
is, infact, precisely a machine for the production of an artistic subject
for works of art, a means of grouping and making sense of things by
identifying objects with intentional subjects such that they can be
unified into a meaningful narrative that fits into the larger teleological
(his)story of "man." That was a long sentence. The author, not
suprisingly given the thrust of this history, is a masculine function.
The author of art history must be the father and owner of his work.
(Is the meaning of eternity really quite clear ?)
The tendency in art-historical discourse is to configure the artist as
paterfamilias, authorizing origin of subsequent developments.
Identifying Blake as ancestor-hero is a means of authorizing him, the
ancestral line he "fathers," and by extension, the interpreter (as
knowing the "true meaning" of Blake). Situating the author as
paternal frame, as inseminator of future interpretors and artists whose
practices are legitimated by virtue of their generic referral to a
preexisting origin, these interpretive pronouncements implicate
themselves in "divine teleology" securing the political economy of
fine arts. Blake is God ensuring immanent (transcendental) radicality.
If we say that Blake's work is all about the fall from an eternal world
and never the"mortal world" are we water tight, crystal clear what
this means ?
> Blake's "Idiot Questioner... who sits with a sly grin.../ Silent
>plotting when to question, like a thief in a cave."
>(Milton 41:12-14)
It seems to me that Blake was very insecure at times, feeling the
need to lash out at his presumed adversaries, but doubtless you will
tell me that it is not Him talking but rather his characters.
Is time in love with the lunch-break of eternity ?
Take flair,
Paul
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Date: 19 Mar 1998 13:24:44 -0800
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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:25:42
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In the Blake canon we find a definite=20
preoccupation with the =93restitution of all
things=94 (Acts 3:21), when God shall be =93all
in all=94 (1 Cor. 15: 28). Not only are =93all
men to be saved=94 (1 Tim. 2:4) but, as Blake
insists at the end of =93Jerusalem,=94 Nature
as well. Foster Damon points out that
this doctrine of Apocatastasis was eventually
declared a heresy by the Catholic Church
but cropped up again in the thought of
Milton, Thomas Vaughan, Ruysbroeck,
Tauler, and also Blake.
M.H. Abrams in =93Natural Supernaturalism=94
sees the root of this belief in the thought of
Plotinus. He indicates that in the third century
Origen =93neoplatonized=94 the Christian scheme
of history when he described the fall as =93 a
lapse into dispersion from the divine One.=94
Abrams describes Erigena=92s =93proto-Hegelian
system=94 as a continuation of this thought and
traces the continuing influence of this doctrine
on Kabbalism, European Hermeticism, through
Paracelsus and Boehme down to the Pietists
in Germany and the Inner Light Puritans in 17th
century England. In fact, Abrams quotes Paul
Reiff : =93If we are to speak of anyone at all as a
=91key=92 to the understanding of Romanticism, one
man only merits the term, Plotinus.=94 Abrams adds:
=93It is now becoming apparent that the esoteric
view of the universe as a plenum of opposed yet
mutually attractive, quasi-sexual forces - which was
...displaced by Cartesian and Newtonian mechanism
...proceeded... to feed back into scientific thought=20
some of the most productive hypotheses of nineteenth
century and modern physics.=94
It therefore seems to me that =93Nature=94 or =93this
mortal life=94 or =93mundane existence=94 are expressions
that should be used with reference and reverence.
Gloudina Bouwer
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Date: 19 Mar 1998 17:01:49 -0800
From: "Tom Vogler"
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: [3]can i please be removed
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[3]can i please be removed 3/19/98
Please note that my new email address is
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Date: 19 Mar 1998 17:04:06 -0800
From: "Tom Vogler"
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: [3]RE>chaunted from lips of
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[3]RE>chaunted from lips of 3/19/98
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Date: 19 Mar 1998 17:05:11 -0800
From: "Tom Vogler"
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: [3]RE>chaunted from lips of
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[3]RE>chaunted from lips of 3/19/98
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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:41:10 -0900
From: ndeeter
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: [4]RE>Re- MT
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Tom Vogler wrote:
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> [4]RE>Re- MT 3/19/98
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> Please note that my new email address is
> tavogler@cats.ucsc.edu
> Your message has been forwarded
What the hell is all this shit?!
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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:08:39 -0800
From: Wendy Williams
To: blake
Subject: Re: Tom
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Hey Tom, we get the point that you don't want to be part of this e-mail.
Would you please stop needlessly filling up my email. Thanks
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