Today's Topics:
Re: Elohim
Eastern Influence
Re: Elohim -Reply
Re: Eastern Influence
Re: Looking for a "way in" to Blake
among the elohim
10413
Re: Was ist los ?
STOP SPAMMING!!! (was10413)
Re: 10413
Re: Eastern Influence
Internet research questions
spamming Blake Online (was: Re: 10413)
Re: Internet research questions
Re: 10413
Re: spamming Blake Online (was: Re: 10413)
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:08:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: Voice of the Devil
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Elohim
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If you would like more details on the Elohim issue and other biblical
questions,
Here is an excellent source of info on Ancient Israel and Jerusalem.
TITLE Prolegomena to the history of ancient Israel : with a reprint
of the article Israel from the Encyclopaedia Britannica / by
Julius Wellhaussen.
AUTHOR Wellhausen, Julius, 1844-1918.
PUBLISHER New York : Meridian Books, 1957.
DESCRIPT. 552 p. ; 21 cm.
SERIES Meridian giants ; MG35.
SUBJECT Jews -- History -- To 953 B.C.
Judaism -- History -- Ancient period.
Bible. O.T. -- Criticism, interpretation, etc.
******
An even better place to start would be here :
This is written more in the vernacular,
TITLE Who wrote the Bible? / Richard Elliott Friedman.
AUTHOR Friedman, Richard Elliott.
PUBLISHER Englewood Cliffs, N.J. : Prentice Hall, c1987.
DESCRIPT. 299 p. : maps ; 23 cm.
NOTE Bibliography: p. 277-283.
Includes index.
SUBJECT Bible. O.T. Pentateuch -- Authorship.
Bible. O.T. Historical Books -- Authorship.
Bible. O.T. Pentateuch -- Criticism, interpretation, etc.
Bible. O.T. Historical Books -- Criticism, interpretation,
Documentary hypothesis (Pentateuchal criticism)
David Downie
http://www.unomaha.edu/~wwwengl/blakeweb/
(The Book of Urizen will be up today !!)
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:25:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: Voice of the Devil
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Eastern Influence
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I am really beginning to immerse myself in criticism and other history of
Blake beyond his writings and I have a nother question that I suspect, but
can not confirm. Would Blake have read any Eastern texts in translation
by his time ?
I am finding similarities between his myths and Hindu myths concerning the
seperation of Bramha (the ultimate reality, totality) and Atman (the
individual sense of self). Only when you destroy the Atman can you merge
with Brahma. - compare to "cleanse the doors of perception ..."
His works definitely show traces of Milton and The Bible, but there is an
extra step involved that transcends both of his sources that I find
similar to Eastern thought. Any backers/detractors ?
David
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:50:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: Voice of the Devil
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Elohim -Reply
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On Thu, 15 May 1997, P Van Schaik wrote:
> David, I found your posting very informative, but would have to disagree
> re what you say concerning all things going back only as far as Urizen
More of a joke than being serious, but the intonation doesn't always carry
well in print.
> and Blake favouring `multiple gods' qua 'poetic geniuses'. Rather, he
> posits an Eternal Great Humanity Divine within whose imaginative and
> loving fires all Eternals exist in `unquenchable burnings'.
As a myth writer he obviously employed more than on mythic or "godlike"
character.
> One of those
> Eternals, falling into too deep a `Sleep' (an occurrence from which others
> are often rescued by eternal helpers in time to prevent catastrophe)
> begins to believe his nightmarish delusions are the only reality, and to
> believe that Urizen, his Zoa of Intellect, is correct in dismissing the divine
> vision of love as a fantasy. Urizen is then given liberty to create a world
> reflecting his own delusions in the abyss.
There you go, he created the world in his delusion, one orb at a time.
Therefore, technically you could call him the source although there may
have been other "primeval priests", Urizen is the one who sets the
creation/fall in motion.
1. Lo, a shadow of horror is risen
In Eternity! Unknown, unprolific!
Self-closd, all-repelling: what Demon
Hath form'd this abominable void
This soul-shudd'ring vacuum?--Some said
"It is Urizen", But unknown, abstracted
Brooding secret, the dark power hid.
--- So was it another dark power ?
At other times, Blake is more specific
2. Times on times he divided, & measur'd
Space by space in his ninefold darkness
Unseen, unknown! changes appeard
In his desolate mountains rifted furious
By the black winds of perturbation
and later ---
1. Earth was not: nor globes of attraction
The will of the Immortal expanded
Or contracted his all flexible senses.
Death was not, but eternal life sprung
2. The sound of a trumpet the heavens
Awoke & vast clouds of blood roll'd
Round the dim rocks of Urizen, so nam'd
That solitary one in Immensity
---- Here is supposedly solitary. The only being in the universe.
The source of all eternal life - soon to become mortal...
>
> It is only through exercising our god-given intellects in harmony with love
> and imagination that we can reverse the effects of the Fall and this is
> where trusting `men of greatest Genius' most comes in. "Poetic Genius'
> can provide the end of a `golden string' to lead us out of the dark
> labyrinths and mazes of the intricately serpent-wound and
> serpent-bound world of nature. Pam
>
>
I wax to Shelley's comment that Poet's are the "unacknowledged
legislators" of the world. Where do you think he learned that from ??
My opinion is that Blake believed his myths and all other myths to be
nonsense, but nonsense with a real purpose - as you stated - to guide
people through an existance that we do not comprehend that will
undoubtedly be littered with troubles and end in death.
Making that experience seem "justified" is a difficult task that obviously
NO ONE has done with complete success but it is the poet, or prophet's
calling to try and do so and has been since writing came about.
The oldest known writings from The Vedas is all about this same kind of
stuff.
Blake doesn't have all the answers but neither did the Mesopotamians, The
Isrealis, The Muslims, The Buddhist, nor tthe most recent Heaven's Gate
Cult.
So what's a body to do about it ?
David
PS Can you tell school is out and I have more free time ?
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 22:06:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Alexander Gourlay
To: blake@albion.com
Cc: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Eastern Influence
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On Sat, 17 May 1997, Voice of the Devil wrote, in part:
>Would Blake have read any Eastern texts in translation
> by his time ?
>
> His works definitely show traces of Milton and The Bible, but there is an
> extra step involved that transcends both of his sources that I find
> similar to Eastern thought. Any backers/detractors ?
>
Blake certainly read the Gita (see his 1809 description of a lost picture
of Wilkins translating), and I suspect that he knew such compendia as
Thomas Maurice's History of Hindostan, which represents most Eastern myth
and religion as misapprehensions of basic Christianity. I don't see much
substantive influence myself, though he clearly found these texts (and
related art) both interesting and to some extent congenial.
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 22:34:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: GaryG332@aol.com
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Looking for a "way in" to Blake
Message-Id: <970517223420_-364802826@emout11.mail.aol.com>
All I can suggest is what seemed to work for me.
I started reading Erdman's The Poetry and Prose of William Blake from
beginning to end. Then I started again, then again, etc., all the while
reading whatever books and articles I could get my hands on. Chaos gradually
yielded to comprehension which gradually yielded to insight.
I believe it's wrong to attempt to understand the "characters" prior to
reading the longer poems. You are limiting your comprehension of the Blakean
universe by doing so.
You're not going to get it the first time around. If you could, what would be
the point of reading it?
Yes, the graphics are extremely important but, for me, it was better to get
the words down first, then expand to the words and graphics together. If
you're more clever than I am perhaps you could absorb both at once, however,
many of the works don't include graphics, and these shouldn't be disregarded
in studying Blake. Besides, the words by themselves aren't exactly a walk in
the park, let alone trying to integrate the graphics at the same time.
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Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 01:58:42 -0700
From: Hugh Walthall
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: among the elohim
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Among the Elohim, a Human Victim I wander.
May I suggest a perusal of Blake's Dinky & Static miniature Opera Seria,
The Ghost of Abel? It has Elohim & Druids & Jehovah, oh my! And Satan
as the Crusading District Attorney.
Hugh Walthall hugwal@erols.com
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Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 14:32:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Noxemail@aol.com
To: SaltRide@aol.com
Subject: 10413
Message-Id: <970518143254_-1867622892@emout16.mail.aol.com>
Dear Madam or Sir,
I am currently seeking employment with your company and am available
immediately. I have provided my resume, so that you have the opportunity to
critique my skills. If interested, or you know someone who might be,
duplicates of this resume in complete fax form are available by calling
602-224-0506 or 602-508-8323. In either case, enter extension #334. You will
have the option of recieving a complete fax of my resume on that call
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3 years intense experience:
Expert Knowledge of MS Access (Database), Word (Word Processing), Excel
(Spreadsheet). Visual Basic and Word Basic programming for custom modules and
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Typing 50+ WPM, Data Processing, Proofreading.
Desktop Publishing. Strong skills in Corel Draw and Quark Express. Image
editing, manipulation, filtration, graphic design. Experience with art
layout, design, and production of fliers, newsletters, newspapers, brochures,
manuals, and reports.
Strong Skills in document imaging, scanning, and image storage. Familiar with
Postscript printing systems and methods. Optical Character Recognition (OCR)
via Text Bridge Pro.
Knowledge of PC hardware, and software. Specialize in PC equipment purchasing
and system design. Extremely skilled under Windows 95, MS-DOS.
Knowledge of Internet web page design, site registration, web based
marketing, HTML publishing.
File Management, CD-ROM Storage Solutions, Record Keeping, Database
Management.
2 years intense experience:
A self starter, and self motivated. Excellent presentation, project
management, analytical and people skills. Excellent time management and
multi-tasking skills. Able to meet deadlines, hard working, detail oriented,
organized.
Gathering of research and information through all available sources including
FTP, Internet, Usenet, All Local Libraries, Telephone, US Mail, Facsimile,
interviews, conventions, and more. Converting information into comprehensive
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Automated telephone answering system design through Voice FX, including fax
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Legal Research including A.R.S. and U.S.C., Case Law Research, and Pre Court
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The compilation and study of famous jokes and quotations.
Study and appreciation of fine art, including paintings, cathedrals, and
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Interest in the works of Mozart, Vivaldi, Beethoven, Bach.
Demanding quality in every aspect of personal life, and professional career.
Experiences to Note
I have recently returned from London, England. The cultural, artistic,
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Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ireland, and more has given me a tremendous
insight into global business operations and methods. Having worked closely as
a top level manager for a UK Charity, and also as a foreman on construction
for the Australian Embassy in the UK, I have observed many unique and
insightful ideas which I now intend to share.
For two years I have worked closely with a business partner to establish a
small business. In doing so, I have learned the value of hard work. I have
proven my ability to work 12 to 16 hours every day, for months. I have
learned, in detail, exact laws, regulation, and policy of business operations
in over five industries. I have gained magnificent insight into the needs of
a corporation, and what that corporation must expect from its employees.
Although there are thousands more considerations I can list as to the
benefits of this training, I will simply close with a quotation:
Ability is nothing without opportunity - Napoleon.
Telephone/Fax:602-508-8323 x.667 - Telephone/Fax:602-224-0506 x.667
Additional Resume Fax Copies: Extension #334
NOTE: This message has been sent to you anonymously. If you wish to reply to
this resume with an offer of employment, please do so via the contact
information provided on the resume itself.
This service has been deployed to protect job seekers from potential email
abuse.
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Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 15:13:22 -0500
From: jmichael@seraph1.sewanee.edu (J. Michael)
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Was ist los ?
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> By chance, someone that knew German saw my webpage and made the
>comment "Was ist los ?" it means what is wrong, or what's the matter ?
Nelson Hilton uses this line as part of his email signature; he may know
more about Blake's knowledge of German.
Jennifer Michael
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Date: Mon, 19 May 97 03:00:15 -0700
From: Seth T. Ross
To: blake@albion.com
Cc: SaltRide@aol.com, Noxemail@aol.com, postmaster@aol.com, abuse@aol.com
Subject: STOP SPAMMING!!! (was10413)
Message-Id: <9705191000.AA02369@albion.com>
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The sender of the attached message (Andre Morris) is obviously a complete
idiot. Spamming a resume to an academic Internet mailing list!!! What's the
point? I recommend this user be terminated with prejudice.
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 14:32:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Noxemail@aol.com
To: SaltRide@aol.com
Subject: 10413
Resent-From: blake@albion.com
Reply-To: blake@albion.com
X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4773
X-Loop: blake@albion.com
Resent-Sender: blake-request@albion.com
Dear Madam or Sir,
I am currently seeking employment with your company and am available
immediately. I have provided my resume, so that you have the opportunity to
critique my skills. If interested, or you know someone who might be,
duplicates of this resume in complete fax form are available by calling
602-224-0506 or 602-508-8323. In either case, enter extension #334. You will
have the option of recieving a complete fax of my resume on that call
whatever your location, or entering the telephone number to a fax machine of
your choice if calling from area code 602.
Andre Morris
3 years intense experience:
Expert Knowledge of MS Access (Database), Word (Word Processing), Excel
(Spreadsheet). Visual Basic and Word Basic programming for custom modules and
procedures in all Office 95 Professional applications.
Typing 50+ WPM, Data Processing, Proofreading.
Desktop Publishing. Strong skills in Corel Draw and Quark Express. Image
editing, manipulation, filtration, graphic design. Experience with art
layout, design, and production of fliers, newsletters, newspapers, brochures,
manuals, and reports.
Strong Skills in document imaging, scanning, and image storage. Familiar with
Postscript printing systems and methods. Optical Character Recognition (OCR)
via Text Bridge Pro.
Knowledge of PC hardware, and software. Specialize in PC equipment purchasing
and system design. Extremely skilled under Windows 95, MS-DOS.
Knowledge of Internet web page design, site registration, web based
marketing, HTML publishing.
File Management, CD-ROM Storage Solutions, Record Keeping, Database
Management.
2 years intense experience:
A self starter, and self motivated. Excellent presentation, project
management, analytical and people skills. Excellent time management and
multi-tasking skills. Able to meet deadlines, hard working, detail oriented,
organized.
Gathering of research and information through all available sources including
FTP, Internet, Usenet, All Local Libraries, Telephone, US Mail, Facsimile,
interviews, conventions, and more. Converting information into comprehensive
reports, policy, and operating procedures.
Automated telephone answering system design through Voice FX, including fax
on demand, voice mailboxes, marketing and promotional messages, fax
broadcasting.
Legal Research including A.R.S. and U.S.C., Case Law Research, and Pre Court
Legal Case Compilation.
Drafting of correspondence, letters, monthly reports, system administration
and management Reports, departmental reporting, discipline and performance
reviews, and in house communications.
Project Design, Scheduling, Purchasing.
2 years advanced study:
Marketing: Creative Writing, Journalism, Direct Mail, Media Relations,
display ad creation, classifieds and free ad marketing.
General Accounting: Payroll, Trust and Estate Planning, Budgeting, General
Ledger, invoice and payment processing, state and federal tax.
Incorporation: Local and Federal Trademark and Tradename filings, logo
development, Patent research and application, Copyright application.
Overseas Relations: Expert into the culture and business practices of the
United Kingdom. Import/Export, shipping regulations and customs duty,
establishing a sales base and corporate foothold in the UK, in depth
knowledge into marketing and purchasing habits of UK residents, contacts and
connections in UK business areas.
Charity: Knowledge of Charitable Foundations, 501( C )3 corporations, and
Private foundations. Ability to work with and manipulate IRS regulations
concerning charities, registrations of charities and charitable activities
within the state of Arizona. In depth knowledge of local charitable
activities, and a complete overview of the entire Arizona public services and
state benefits systems. Including A.H.C.C.C.S., Welfare, Food Stamps and
Child Assistance, Unemployment Insurace, Subsidized Housing, WIC, and
Families with Dependent Children.
Other Misc. Experience and Abilities: Personal Physical Fitness Training,
Print and Television Modeling, Personal Grooming, Photography, Martial Arts.
Professional Character
The compilation and study of famous jokes and quotations.
Study and appreciation of fine art, including paintings, cathedrals, and
stone statues.
Interest in the works of Mozart, Vivaldi, Beethoven, Bach.
Demanding quality in every aspect of personal life, and professional career.
Experiences to Note
I have recently returned from London, England. The cultural, artistic,
reasoning, logical, and analytical skills that I have learned from this are
immeasurable. Having socialized and developed friendships with individuals
from around the world including Italy, South Africa, Spain, Canada, USA,
Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ireland, and more has given me a tremendous
insight into global business operations and methods. Having worked closely as
a top level manager for a UK Charity, and also as a foreman on construction
for the Australian Embassy in the UK, I have observed many unique and
insightful ideas which I now intend to share.
For two years I have worked closely with a business partner to establish a
small business. In doing so, I have learned the value of hard work. I have
proven my ability to work 12 to 16 hours every day, for months. I have
learned, in detail, exact laws, regulation, and policy of business operations
in over five industries. I have gained magnificent insight into the needs of
a corporation, and what that corporation must expect from its employees.
Although there are thousands more considerations I can list as to the
benefits of this training, I will simply close with a quotation:
Ability is nothing without opportunity - Napoleon.
Telephone/Fax:602-508-8323 x.667 - Telephone/Fax:602-224-0506 x.667
Additional Resume Fax Copies: Extension #334
NOTE: This message has been sent to you anonymously. If you wish to reply to
this resume with an offer of employment, please do so via the contact
information provided on the resume itself.
This service has been deployed to protect job seekers from potential email
abuse.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 10:35:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Benson Smith
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: 10413
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I say we hire him.
On Sun, 18 May 1997 Noxemail@aol.com wrote:
> Dear Madam or Sir,
>
> I am currently seeking employment with your company and am available
> immediately. I have provided my resume, so that you have the opportunity to
> critique my skills. If interested, or you know someone who might be,
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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 11:16:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: "DR. JOSIE MCQUAIL"
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Eastern Influence
Message-Id: <01IJ1VFG1NDU8WW463@tntech.edu>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
In the book The Divine Vision: Studies in the Poetry and Art of William
Blake (1957) there is an article by Piloo Nanavutty called "William Blake
and Hindu Creation Myths." He asserts that in the 18th century Hindu myths
were well known if somewhat garbled in oral accounts, and that Blake
assimilated these influences in various works and characters. The spider
and the beb of creation, "Samsara, mundane existence, which consists of
discordant elements in opposition to one another," "The four persons"
produced from Brimha's breath, and the Four Zoas. Nanavutty has
published other articles tracing Eastern influences on Blakein Journal of
the Warburg and Courtauld Institutes.
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Date: Mon, 19 May 97 13:59 CST
From: MLGrant@president-po.president.uiowa.edu
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Internet research questions
Message-Id: <199705191949.OAA11952@cc-gate.uiowa.edu>
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Am I the only subscriber to Blake Online who believes that for
university graduate students engaged in writing theses on Blake, and
even for undergraduates taking courses on Blake, the research process
ought to begin in the library? This isn't meant to be a turn-off or a
put-down. I'm glad the Blake group is inclusive, and I hope people
will always feel free to ask basic questions and help each other out.
But for people with an "edu" address, shouldn't a routine library
search be expected to produce fuller and more reliable information
than an online query? Isn't knowledge of how to find things in the
library an important part of a graduate student's education -- perhaps
even more important now than it was before the rise and expansion of
the Internet?
If a thesis writer who is interested in possible Eastern influences
on Blake, for example, turns first to the basic bibliographical tools
and major reference books, he or she will learn more than a fellow
subscriber can provide. Better yet, the thesis writer will become
accustomed to tapping into a wealth of information that will lead to
further exploration. Finding the "Geeta" painting, the "Ganesha"
engraving, and the work of Piloo Nanavutty and others who share her
interest in Blake's possible knowledge of Hindu sources will lead to
other searches and discoveries. The Internet is a very seductive
medium, but chatting with a global community is no substitute for
delving into books that have been written with great care and reviewed
(and often corrected) by other scholars. In my dinosaur (but
cyber-friendly) opinion, the Internet is best used to update,
complement, and supplement library resources, rather than as an easy
way to avoid consulting them.
-- Mary Lynn
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Date: Mon, 19 May 97 15:08:34 -0700
From: Seth T. Ross
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: spamming Blake Online (was: Re: 10413)
Message-Id: <9705192208.AA01576@albion.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
>> I am currently seeking employment with your company ...
> I say we hire him.
I really don't know how that email got through the anti-spam measures I've
set up for Blake Online. Albion.com is the target of dozens of spam mails a
day -- spamming a resume is a new one on me. Rest assured that I am fighting
back on a daily basis via every legal means at my disposal (blistering
complaints to postmasters, venomous complaints send to 800#s, etc.).
--Seth
PS Leaving Blake Online is as easy as sending an email to
blake-request@albion.com with the word "unsubscribe" as the SUBJECT of the
message.
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Date: Mon, 19 May 97 15:08:42 -0700
From: Seth T. Ross
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Internet research questions
Message-Id: <9705192208.AA01601@albion.com>
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> Am I the only subscriber to Blake Online who believes that
> for university graduate students engaged in writing
> theses on Blake, and even for undergraduates taking
> courses on Blake, the research process ought to begin in
> the library?
No. In fact, I wouldn't restrict this to graduate students. The same notion
should apply to students at the undergrad and secondary levels as well. In any
case, the worse thing someone can do is send the query to the harried
webmaster at albion.com (me!). --Seth
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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 17:09:02 +0000
From: "Bob Tilewick"
To: blake@albion.com, blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: 10413
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I agree.
> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 10:35:06 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Benson Smith
> To: blake@albion.com
> Subject: Re: 10413
> Reply-to: blake@albion.com
>
> I say we hire him.
>
>
> On Sun, 18 May 1997 Noxemail@aol.com wrote:
> > Dear Madam or Sir,
> >
> > I am currently seeking employment with your company and am available
> > immediately. I have provided my resume, so that you have the opportunity to
> > critique my skills. If interested, or you know someone who might be,
>
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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 15:53:18 -0700
From: David Rollison
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: spamming Blake Online (was: Re: 10413)
Message-Id: <3380D9DB.3B97@marin.cc.ca.us>
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Seth: We all appreciate your valiant efforts, but I'll bet that ways of
spamming we haven't even dreamed of are forthcoming. The resume was, at
least, amusing.
Seth T. Ross wrote:
>
> >> I am currently seeking employment with your company ...
>
> > I say we hire him.
>
> I really don't know how that email got through the anti-spam measures I've
> set up for Blake Online. Albion.com is the target of dozens of spam mails a
> day -- spamming a resume is a new one on me. Rest assured that I am fighting
> back on a daily basis via every legal means at my disposal (blistering
> complaints to postmasters, venomous complaints send to 800#s, etc.).
>
> --Seth
>
> PS Leaving Blake Online is as easy as sending an email to
> blake-request@albion.com with the word "unsubscribe" as the SUBJECT of the
> message.
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